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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Interesting article over at ArsTechnica.
http://arstechnica.com/information-tech ... rogrammer/

I've always been of the opinion that having a logical mindset is essential to becoming a good programmer. However, many people say that coding is a skill like any other that can be taught to just about anyone.

The recent surge in code school websites and the push to introduce programming back into mainstream education suggests that more people will be exposed to code these days. Will we see coding become mundane and commonplace or will it remain a black art only practised by geeks?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:48 am 
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well, i was working as a ceo of a smaller software development company a few years ago. When searching for php developers you learn one thing - which will for sure be true for other languages too the more popular programming gets: Everyone can be a programmer, but it is hard to find someone who actually can program.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:09 pm 
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You have only to talk to my wife to realize the answer to the question is "No". :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:05 pm 
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She must be the exception to the rule :D

I think programming in itself is not difficult, you just write a recipe with steps that any fool can follow.

The difference is imho mostly in the speed and flexibility of picking the right structure of the problem you're solving, and the ability to scale up to a large amount of variations such that you are not busy forever, and every variation works.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:25 am 
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Well, I suppose if someone can write a program such as:

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10 PRINT "Bad Monkey ";
20 GOTO 10


There's hope for us all. ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:10 am 
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Mugai wrote:
Well, I suppose if someone can write a program such as:

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10 PRINT "Bad Monkey ";
20 GOTO 10


There's hope for us all. ;)



Hey! Don't knock it. That's one of the few programs I've actually finished.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:41 am 
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Codehead wrote:
Hey! Don't knock it. That's one of the few programs I've actually finished.

Not knocking it. Just saying that if someone is cable of typing those lines out, they wrote a program. Maybe nothing that would strike us with awe, but we all started with Hello World, right? :)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:42 pm 
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So anyone can be a journalist?
Can't anyone with a basic education write an article following the five journalist questions?

Anyone can be anything if you are happy wearing an ugly jewel, or a suit with too long sleeves, or living in a house in constant risk of collapse.

Being a programmer requires mindset and dedication.
Can anyone with enough commitment become a programmer?
As long as you believe that anyone with enough commitment can become a mathematician, a physicist or a philosopher, then anyone can be a programmer.

But I don't think that people work this way.
I think commitment is a very personal and intimate sprout that's strictly correlated with a person living environment and interests.

IMHO not anyone can be a programmer.

BTW, hi all, this is my first post :D


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:08 pm 
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LuvSelf wrote:
So anyone can be a journalist?
Can't anyone with a basic education write an article following the five journalist questions?

Anyone can be anything if you are happy wearing an ugly jewel, or a suit with too long sleeves, or living in a house in constant risk of collapse.

Being a programmer requires mindset and dedication.
Can anyone with enough commitment become a programmer?
As long as you believe that anyone with enough commitment can become a mathematician, a physicist or a philosopher, then anyone can be a programmer.

But I don't think that people work this way.
I think commitment is a very personal and intimate sprout that's strictly correlated with a person living environment and interests.

IMHO not anyone can be a programmer.


Sounds like how I tend to think about things. Of course, they way I tend to say such things tends to confuse. :rolleyes

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BTW, hi all, this is my first post :D

Howdy, and welcome aboard! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:55 am 
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Codehead wrote:
Mugai wrote:
Well, I suppose if someone can write a program such as:

Code:
10 PRINT "Bad Monkey ";
20 GOTO 10


There's hope for us all. ;)



Hey! Don't knock it. That's one of the few programs I've actually finished.

Yours finished? Mine's still printing out "Bad Monkey".

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:50 pm 
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Ah, the evils of GOTO. :lol

I was yelling at one of my co-workers the other day for using a GOTO in a batch file. He asked if I had a better way of handling the script, and to my shame I didn't. :O

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:13 pm 
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Some interesting comments about learning to program

http://worrydream.com/LearnableProgramming/


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