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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:51 am 
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Ok. So, we need to figure out a few things here.

Things we know (decided in IRC and forums):
- The task force reports directly to a small congressional committee, that committee and the president are the only thing that keep a check on their activities.
- The task force's leader is an Egokineticist, and controls/influences both the committee and the president.
- The task force has a major base in what was formerly known as Nellis Airforce Base (I say formerly, because it's no longer Airforce, but task force)
- Project Oracle is the name of the operation to analyze the Perception Crash (the "event") to better understand what is happened and why, what is going on, and what is this leading to, and what will happen as the Perception Crash continues
- Project Philadelphia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_experiment ( note that we will not entirely follow the alleged specifics of the "real" Philadelphia conspiracy entirely, we will make some up) ) was an earlier technology that took advantage of higher dimensional technology, and it was the first to "prove" the existence of these higher dimensions in the 1940s.
- Project Montauk ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project ( note that we will not entirely follow the alleged specifics of the "real" Montauk conspiracy entirely, we will make some up) ), was a 1980s experiment in cross dimensional travel, leading to some of the earliest examples of physic abilities, and some beings from other worlds
- Project Charon was the name of a government experiment in travel through higher dimensions that took place some time in the 2020s through the 2030s.

Things we need to know:
- What are we going to call the task force? Proposed names include Aegis and Mjolnir, among other things. I prefer an abbreviation that is pronounceable.
- What are names of important people related to the task force?
- What is the name of the Congressional Committee?
- What are the classification levels within the task force?
- The specifics of other things

Personally, I don't think that any of the 3 government cross-dimensional experiments should be shown to be very successful, as cross-dimensional travel would be annoying. There should however be reports of people gaining odd psionic powers, being able to inanimate probes into the other dimension, but then being unable to bring them back, perhaps a human test subject who was sent through in the 2020s and reappears years later with no explanation, people who were attempted to be sent through, but only a limb disappeared, etc.. Perhaps an interesting plot idea would be that these experiments inadvertantly caused the Perception Crash?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:35 am 
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I guess Agammemnon is out for the name of the task force? :)

T.F. Thor - Tactical Hyper-dimensional Operations & Research

Names - we can fudge this for now IMO. Assuming the names are loaded from data files, they can be replaced at will.

Committee - I guess this would actually be a subcommittee under the Senate Committee on Armed Services. Committee on Hyper-dimensional investigation and threat assessment & response?

Classification levels - we could use a military ranking system for officers. not sure how much we need. Director, Deputy Directors, Agent? How many people will the player come into contact with?

I'd love to have someone start on a T.F. office blueprint. :) There should be an R&D wing, an Ops Wing, Training Wing, etc.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:40 am 
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Machaira wrote:
T.F. Thor - Tactical Hyper-dimensional Operations & Research

This gets my vote

Machaira wrote:
Names - we can fudge this for now IMO. Assuming the names are loaded from data files, they can be replaced at will.

This will be much more difficult for ingame books/writings/papers/etc.

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Committee - I guess this would actually be a subcommittee under the Senate Committee on Armed Services. Committee on Hyper-dimensional investigation and threat assessment & response?

Sounds good to me.

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Classification levels - we could use a military ranking system for officers. not sure how much we need. Director, Deputy Directors, Agent? How many people will the player come into contact with?

I mean like "secret" and "top secret". Besides, it doesn't matter how many people you come into contact with, ingame classified documents will have something at the top that should say something like "This file is classified as *insert classification here* by the government of the United States of America. If you are below this level of classification, do not read further, and leave this document where it was found."

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I'd love to have someone start on a T.F. office blueprint. :) There should be an R&D wing, an Ops Wing, Training Wing, etc.

I'll see if I can come up with something tommorrow.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:44 am 
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T-1 wrote:
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Names - we can fudge this for now IMO. Assuming the names are loaded from data files, they can be replaced at will.

This will be much more difficult for ingame books/writings/papers/etc.

How so? All this stuff would just come from data files.

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Classification levels - we could use a military ranking system for officers. not sure how much we need. Director, Deputy Directors, Agent? How many people will the player come into contact with?

I mean like "secret" and "top secret". Besides, it doesn't matter how many people you come into contact with, ingame classified documents will have something at the top that should say something like "This file is classified as *insert classification here* by the government of the United States of America. If you are below this level of classification, do not read further, and leave this document where it was found."[/quote]
wikipedia to the rescue :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified ... ion_levels

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I'd love to have someone start on a T.F. office blueprint. :) There should be an R&D wing, an Ops Wing, Training Wing, etc.

I'll see if I can come up with something tommorrow.

Hmmm, Racoon City underground research "city" from the movie - have to Google it :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:01 pm 
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Machaira wrote:
How so? All this stuff would just come from data files.


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I was just wondering if we were going to make up our own, like Deus Ex did. Of course, neither UNATCO nor MJ12 in Deus Ex were US government agencies.

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Hmmm, Racoon City underground research "city" from the movie - have to Google it :)

I can't seem to find this on google.

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T-1 wrote:
Machaira wrote:
How so? All this stuff would just come from data files.

Did you miss a reply here? :)

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I was just wondering if we were going to make up our own, like Deus Ex did. Of course, neither UNATCO nor MJ12 in Deus Ex were US government agencies.

I don't think we need to.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:38 pm 
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Machaira wrote:
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Machaira wrote:
How so? All this stuff would just come from data files.

Did you miss a reply here? :)

I think I cut it and had forgotten to repaste it in the proper place. The proper response would've been something like "*smacks forehead*, doh, I should've known that"

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I don't think we need to.

I was just making sure. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:28 pm 
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As for names, isn't one name as good as any other anyway? It shouldn't really require all that much effort to be put off, now should it?.... *makes a random pool of names*:Ethan Hawk, Michael Thomas, Francine Belliardo, Jordan Lewis, Alexandra Fredricks.

*shrugs*

Anyway, as for the task force name, is it just me or does THOR sound a bit corny?... Just a god of thunder who was famed just for his strength seems a bit forceful, let alone the name of the organization seems a bit too revealing. Would the government really want the taskforce members, let alone the general public to know that the psions have to be hunted down because they screwed up an researched extradimensional sciences? Then again, I don't have a better suggestion at the moment, so feel free to ignore me.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:50 pm 
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Tiak wrote:
As for names, isn't one name as good as any other anyway? It shouldn't really require all that much effort to be put off, now should it?.... *makes a random pool of names*:Ethan Hawk, Michael Thomas, Francine Belliardo, Jordan Lewis, Alexandra Fredricks.

Well, the name has to fit the person's cultural/ethnic/racial/etc. origin.

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Anyway, as for the task force name, is it just me or does THOR sound a bit corny?... Just a god of thunder who was famed just for his strength seems a bit forceful, let alone the name of the organization seems a bit too revealing. Would the government really want the taskforce members, let alone the general public to know that the psions have to be hunted down because they screwed up an researched extradimensional sciences? Then again, I don't have a better suggestion at the moment, so feel free to ignore me.

Well, yes, we need a better suggestion, but you have a pretty good point actually.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:20 am 
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I guess I should post the relevant ingame documents we have here:
http://perceptioncrash.sourceforge.net/ ... m_The_Mind

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:28 am 
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T-1 wrote:
I was just wondering if we were going to make up our own, like Deus Ex did. Of course, neither UNATCO nor MJ12 in Deus Ex were US government agencies.


As true as that may be, Deus Ex still broke the fourth wall. That's what we're aiming for, no?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:27 am 
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Raikoh wrote:
T-1 wrote:
I was just wondering if we were going to make up our own, like Deus Ex did. Of course, neither UNATCO nor MJ12 in Deus Ex were US government agencies.


As true as that may be, Deus Ex still broke the fourth wall. That's what we're aiming for, no?

As in Top Secret? Well, yeah, that would be sort of cool.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:17 pm 
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new ingame document?
http://perceptioncrash.sourceforge.net/ ... /ORACLE-51

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Very cool. There's some editing that needs to be done on it though. Part of it reads like a news report not a government document. Post it up on the wiki and we'll go from there.

Great job.

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Very cool. There's some editing that needs to be done on it though. Part of it reads like a news report not a government document. Post it up on the wiki and we'll go from there.

Great job.

posted, and new category:
http://perceptioncrash.sourceforge.net/ ... ngame_Text

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general consensus seems to be that THOR is a bit corny... perhaps we need a better name?

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Well, I like T.H.O.R. :)


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http://dreamlandresort.com/

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
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COINTELPRO (Counter Intelligence Program) was a program of the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. Although covert operations have been employed throughout FBI history, the formal COINTELPRO operations of 1956-1971 were broadly targeted against organizations that were (at the time) considered to have politically radical elements, ranging from those whose stated goal was the violent overthrow of the U.S. government (such as the Weathermen) to non-violent civil rights groups such as Martin Luther King Jr.'s Southern Christian Leadership Conference to violent racist and segregationist groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party. The founding document of COINTELPRO directed FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.

we need vague mentions of COINTELPRO in emails and dialog with connections to THOR.

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http://dreamlandresort.com/info/ttr.html
this might be an ingame area, and it'd definitely be mentioned in dialogue and emails. Area 52.

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