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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:16 pm 
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T-1 wrote:
What is an entity by your definition? That's more unclear to me.


Something that exists in some form or another? :)

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Model View Controller anyone, or am I the only one who uses that?

Huh?!? :confused
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Machaira wrote:
T-1 wrote:
What is an entity by your definition?

PC or NPC - basically anything living with any degree of intelligence. Actually you could just call the class Character and you'd be more correct, whether it's a player or non-player character. :)

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I would do the hierarchy something like this.

Entity (Base class for interactive elements, does collision detection, etc.)
-Character (Same for PC and NPC)
-Vehicle
-ItemPickup
-Projectile
-InanimateObject

s/Entity/Actor/
s/Character/Pawn/
s/Vehicle/Pawn/
s/InanimateObject/Decoration/

Character and Vehicle should have a shared parent object (Pawn), so that Controllers can be freely and easily switched between the two.

Entity has odd meanings, Machaira takes it to mean what I mean by Pawn, Struan takes it to mean what I mean by Actor.

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Actor == gameworld object. Actor tells me something that acts on the gameworld.

I think it's the inanimate objects as actors that gets to me. :confused

Inanimate objects still act in that they collide and can be seen.

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Machaira
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:46 pm 
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T-1 wrote:
Inanimate objects still act in that they collide and can be seen.

That's not acting, that's merely existing. :)

I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with the naming conventions.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:32 am 
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T-1 I think you are mixing up the different parts. I am just taking about the game logic (not the graphics or the controllers (human or ai)).

I take Entity to mean any object/person or whatever in the game world. All the other classes should inherit from Entity which should be an abstract class. Entity would define methods for collision detection, taking damage, etc. which would be shared by all the child classes.
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Struan wrote:
T-1 I think you are mixing up the different parts. I am just taking about the game logic (not the graphics or the controllers (human or ai)).

I take Entity to mean any object/person or whatever in the game world. All the other classes should inherit from Entity which should be an abstract class. Entity would define methods for collision detection, taking damage, etc. which would be shared by all the child classes.

nope, understood perfectly.

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Struan wrote:
I take Entity to mean any object/person or whatever in the game world. All the other classes should inherit from Entity which should be an abstract class. Entity would define methods for collision detection, taking damage, etc. which would be shared by all the child classes.

See, to me that would be an WorldObject (or even just Object) class, which Entity inherits. It would go something like:

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Object
   Entity
      PC
      NPCs
   Item
      Chest
      Weapon
      Car
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Machaira wrote:
Code:
Object
   Entity
      PC
      NPCs
   Item
      Chest
      Weapon
      Car

once again, Vehicles should share a parent class with characters.

Code:
Object
   Entity
      Characters
           PC
           NPCs
      Car
   Item
      Chest
      Weapon

would make more sense

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Well chests/weapons/pickups still need the same collision detection as characters/cars which I think makes sense on Entity.

I don't see the need for separate PC and NPC classes. They should work exactly the same except for the are controlled by a separate class (AI or Human control classes).
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T-1 wrote:
once again, Vehicles should share a parent class with characters.

Why?
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Struan wrote:
Well chests/weapons/pickups still need the same collision detection as characters/cars which I think makes sense on Entity.

But the collision detection would be part of Object. :) Every world object will need it so it make sense to include it at the highest level possible.

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I don't see the need for separate PC and NPC classes. They should work exactly the same except for the are controlled by a separate class (AI or Human control classes).

I'd have to think about it, but there might be a need to distinguish between the two. Not a bit deal though, it's basically the separation between living and non-living objects.
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Machaira wrote:
Struan wrote:
Well chests/weapons/pickups still need the same collision detection as characters/cars which I think makes sense on Entity.

But the collision detection would be part of Object. :) Every world object will need it so it make sense to include it at the highest level possible.

Struan wrote:
I don't see the need for separate PC and NPC classes. They should work exactly the same except for the are controlled by a separate class (AI or Human control classes).

I'd have to think about it, but there might be a need to distinguish between the two. Not a bit deal though, it's basically the separation between living and non-living objects.

do some separation yeh. :)

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